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A Very Corona Thanksgiving | SeoulPodcast #166

A Very Corona Thanksgiving | SeoulPodcast #166

A Very Corona Thanksgiving

The Third Wave is here! Emma and Joe update on the latest COVID-19 clusters in Korea. PLUS lots of transportation news.

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About This Episode

NEWS

Corona Updates

New virus cases over 300 for 3rd day, greater Seoul area in 3rd wave of outbreak

 

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201120000166

New clusters of infections continue to pop up in connection to everyday spaces such as cafes, restaurants, karaoke rooms, schools, workplaces and indoor sports facilities, as well as hospitals and nursing homes, which complicates health authorities’ efforts to identify and trace sources of infections.

 

  • Sinchon – Yonsei
  • religious gatherings (north and south Seoul)
  • university hospital in Gwangju
  • facility for disabled people in Cheorwon
  • middle school in South Gyeongsang
  • Incheon family gathering

 

The number of COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in South Korea is in the lowest three among Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development member states

 

1.5 Level Social Distancing – May go to 2 Level

Suncheon – Level 2

Gatherings 100 or more are banned

Virus-prone businesses suspended

Restrain from year-end gatherings and non-essential outdoor activities (like what?)

 

Other Crap

 

Korean Air to buy Asiana, emerges as world’s 10th-largest airline

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2020/11/774_299371.html?fbclid=IwAR2cZIv7iLz-lU8U5WuCRCQbmGfdRz3vSuEwSbNRFekrnM-9DsJ7jJzGQo0

 

HYPERLOOP ACHIEVES 1,000KM/H SPEED IN KOREA, DAYS AFTER VIRGIN PASSENGER TEST

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/hyperloop-korea-speed-record-korail-virgin-b1721942.html?fbclid=IwAR04Vi0TW6_6yBQRSiEjFJmL-g8N6_BjYsSdasC7tdU5AYpZFd4LO2V120c

 

Will AI replace human composers?

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2020/11/398_299577.html

 

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About This Episode

The recent COVID-19 outbreak

Violence on public transport surging over face masks

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/08/251_294996.html

349 people have been arrested for face mask-related conflicts over the last three months

 

Kwak mentioned that tightened face mask rules can be difficult to follow especially for elderly men in their 60s and older, which is why they are often involved in assault cases.

 

“Older people find it relatively hard to follow rapidly changing rules or adapt to a new situation. Also, they get easily upset when other people, especially the younger generation, point out their mistakes,” she explained.

Church confronts president, demands investigation on union group

“(Holding) worship services is a fundamental (aspect) of religious freedom. We are not convinced as to why only Christian worship services should be banned,” it said.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200825000777

Seoul to offer disaster relief funds to foreign residents

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/08/177_294984.html

Stranded by coronavirus, foreigners overstaying in S. Korea sharply increase

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/08/177_294976.html

Doctors Strike

Typhoon Bavi

Sam Okyere shuts down his Instagram account after the controversy over “Once you go black you never go back” statement in an Instagram post 

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/08/sam-okyere-shuts-down-his-instagram-account-after-the-controversy-over-once-you-go-black-you-never-go-back-statement-in-an-instagram-post?fbclid=IwAR1hekWYG4oWvc6gz3Jy5WV6YHBngN89FxTw0ruTxzNR1E3J-DMpJej4ECo

 

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About This Episode

While finding the BK, we talk about the following:

 

  • Drive-thrus being a fairly new concept in South Korea and why
  • How restaurants and other businesses in Korea (mostly) didn’t close during COVID-19
  • “Parasite” and Bong Joon-ho’s foreigner issue and why you shouldn’t try to curse in a foreign language
  • Covid 19 in korea and the second wave and comparing and contrasting how korea never shut down restaurants or hair shops. 
  • Latest suicide of the Seoul mayor since the last suicide we talked about. 22yr old athlete. 
  • Koreans being allowed to fly into EU but not Americans. 
  • TikTok fined W186 million in S. Korea over privacy issue
  • Negative COVID-19 test results required for arrivals from two more countries
  • Philippines
  • Uzbekistan
  • Bangladesh
  • Pakistan
  • Kazakhstan
  • Kyrgyzstan

Why not the U.S. and Brazil? 

 

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“Itaewon Class” Roundtable

“Itaewon Class” Roundtable

“Itaewon Class” Roundtable

Episode 146

Guests

Flower – Flower Takes on Korea Instagram

Timothy Sun – Korean-American Netflix Junkie

 

We discuss the hit Korean drama “Itaewon Class.” We recommend watching before listening because of spoilers. We cover issues brought up, our favorite characters, cultural details you may have missed, and things that we love and are annoyed by.

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Joe McPherson

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Flower – Flower Takes on Korea Instagram

Timothy Sun – Korean-American Netflix Junkie

 

We discuss the hit Korean drama “Itaewon Class.” We recommend watching before listening because of spoilers. We cover issues brought up, our favorite characters, cultural details you may have missed, and things that we love and are annoyed by.

Plot Outline

***SPOILER ALERT***

Itaewon Class centers around Park Saeroyi, a stubbornly high principled middle school dropout with a criminal past, as he opens a small pub in the Itaewon neighborhood. He collects a motley crew of employees (“pied piper of misfits” – ManicMuse) as he tries to build his pub and get revenge on the powerful Jang family, who had ruined his life and killed his father. 

 

First episode – Jan 31, 2020

Final episode – March 21, 2020

Characters

http://asianwiki.com/Itaewon_Class <–placing faces with names

Dan Bam

  • Park Saeroyi (Park Seo-joon)
    • Parasite, Fight for My Way 쌈 마이 웨이, Midnight Runners
    • Lawful Good
  • Jo Yi-seo (Park Da-mi)
    • Chaotic Good
    • Taller than she’s portrayed (170cm)
  • Choi Seung-kwon (Ryu Kyung-soo)
    • That scar!
  • Ma Hyeon-yi (Lee Joo-young)
  • Kim To-ni (Chris Lyon)
  • Jang Geun-soo (Kim Dong-hee)
    • SKY Castle (Cha Seo-Joon)

Jangga

  • Jang Dae-hee (Yoo Jae-myung)
    • Lawful evil? Neutral evil?
  • Jang Geun-won (Ahn Bo-hyun)
    • Chaotic evil – Most punchable face
  • Oh Soo-ah (Kwon Nara)
    • Member of Hello Venus and in a lot of commercials 
  • Kang Min-jung (Kim Hye-eun)
  • Chef Park Jung-Gi (Lee Joon-Hyuk)
    Who tries to look like Linus Kim

Others

  • Park Sung-Yeol (Son Hyun-Joo)
    • Park’s Saeroyi’s father
  • Lee Ho-jin (Lee David)
  • Kim Soon-rye (Kim Mi-kyeong)
  • Detective Oh Byeong-heon (Yoon Kyeong-ho)
  • Hong Seok-Cheon

 

Differences from the Webtoon

  • The actors were made to try to match the webtoon as much as possible
  • More backstory to create motivations, especially Soo-ah
  • Originally named 꿀밤 (changed because the webtoon’s writer owned a real pub with that name)
  • The order and situations when characters meet are a little different
  • Park Saeroyi’s father opened a chicken hof, not a pocha
  • Big car chase at the end
  • Jang Dae-hee kneels his apology in his hospital room

Issues

  • Portrayals of powerless members in Korean society 
    • The age gap between Yi-Seo and Saeroyi
    • (I didn’t know she was trying to pretend to be a man at the beginning)
    • How it was used against her in the competition
    • Recent stories
      • Withdrawal from Sookmyung Women’s University
      • Discharged from army after surgery
    • Harisu
    • Hong Seok-cheon
    • “Korean-ness” more about looks
    • Assume English speaking (Han Hyun-min?)
    • Blocked at the nightclub
    • The jumping and hiding from foreigners
    • Cross-cultural marriage
    • Infantilization of foreigners
    • How the show treated Kim To-ni’s character after they had made their point
    • Dirt spoons vs. Gold spoons
    • Uneducated
    • Criminal record
    • Age
    • Transgender & LGBT
    • Foreign-born/Race
    • Did the issues feel like they were shoehorned in, or did they feel natural?
  • How did it portray Itaewon and Gyungridan?
  • Dominance of chaebol
    • Food company
      • CJ Food
      • Baek Jong-won
      • Hanjin
      • Hanhwa
    • Real life comparisons
  • Good capitalism vs. bad capitalism or Good boss vs. Bad boss
    • Relationships over money
  • Suicide? 

Questions & Notes

  • What was your favorite part?
  • When Yi-seo kissed a passed out Saeroyi… 
  • How did you feel about Saeroyi’s reaction when Mr. Jang knelt?
    • Inigo Montoya
  • Did Soo-Ah get a good ending?
  • Did Yi-Seo and Saeroyi make a sensible match or felt forced to please fans?
  • Did it feel it petered out after episode 13? When it jumped to 4 years later?
  • The gangster subplot. How do you feel about how it played out?
  • Geun-won. How realistic is his character? No redeeming qualities?
  • Which characters saw growth?
  • Park Saeroyi wouldn’t have become successful without Mr. Jang.
  • How did it break Korean drama cliches (and how did it stick to them)?
    • Different vibe
    • Subverted the myth of the Chaebol Prince
      • Both Geun-won and Geun-soo
    • Heroes not usually seen on Korean TV
    • Love triangle/pentagon
    • Underdog story
    • Reaching coincidences
    • Style
      • The talk to the back
      • Long pauses
      • Gratuitous flashbacks and inner monologues
      • Replaying the same pop songs
    • Breaks cliches
    • Sticks to cliches
  • Weird stuff
    • The detective’s daughter doesn’t age at all
    • 4-year jump
  • Is Saeroyi too annoyingly virtuous? Vulture–”He’s a paragon of moral virtue in XXL fits, with an almost astonishingly naïve capacity to do the right thing even at great personal cost.”
    • Never kissed a girl
  • Do you think with the popularity of “Itaewon Class” that more dramas will feature less represented characters in Korean society?

 

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