SeoulPodcast #49: Korean Folklore

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Jennifer Flinn (Fatman Seoul)

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Korean Folklore

Encyclopedia Mythica: Korean mythology.

Korean Folklore Online Archive

 

NEWS AND STUFF

Karl’s little known Korea Facts

Producer arrested for mad cow report – INSIDE JoongAng Daily

Jang Ja-yeon May Have Committed Suicide Due to Leak of Confession Note

Jang Ja-yeon’s last phone call with manager

Jang Ja-yeon’s list

“A Thing of Beauty”

Chris in South Korea: Internet freedom being curtailed in SOUTH Korea?

 

THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO WHAA?

Well, I Appreciate Blunt Speech

Speaking before a rightwing group Wednesday, former Defense Minister Lee Sang-hoon said that had the “Yongsan Incident” taken place in the United States, the police would have opened fire on the perpetrators.

Dating: “No,” Means “Try Harder,” Unless It Means “No.”

‘You Know, a Woman Doesn’t Really Believe a Man Likes Her Until He Kisses Her’

Hanok Apartments and Jutaek?

G Dragon is a fashion leader

I remember when they said, “Oh, Elton John isn’t gay. He just dresses like that.”

EXPAT COMMUNITY

John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer: Nominated!?!?!

Immigration gives E-2 visa extension to teacher who refuses health checks.

TIME WASTERS OF THE WEEK

This delicious snack treat is a Korean-hater’s wet dream.

We Thought Nobody Liked This

2-min. Art | Teleportation Dance

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  • http://www.yrad.com karl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3u0wWI27c&feature=related

    I “like” this dance (a video related to the teleportation dance). Mostly for the eloquent commenter “nutsack101″ who helpfully informs us:

    ||I bet she has a nice tight pussy…I’ve pumped tons of asian girls that look like her and all of them are good in bed! I love it when I throw their legs over my shoulders and pound them senseless!!! They have the look of discomfort on their faces that really turns me on!!!||

    Anyway Joe thanks for soldiering thru my korean facts.

  • http://www.yrad.com karl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3u0wWI27c&feature=related

    I “like” this dance (a video related to the teleportation dance). Mostly for the eloquent commenter “nutsack101″ who helpfully informs us:

    ||I bet she has a nice tight pussy…I’ve pumped tons of asian girls that look like her and all of them are good in bed! I love it when I throw their legs over my shoulders and pound them senseless!!! They have the look of discomfort on their faces that really turns me on!!!||

    Anyway Joe thanks for soldiering thru my korean facts.

  • Turner

    May I suggest a new name for the podcast…..”I hate korea podcast” The content of most of your podcasts have been nothing but “things to make fun about korea”

    You made a choice to live there and from what I can see, you and your other hosts have made a fair amount of money at the expense of Korean parents who shell out a ton of money to pay for these useless English schools. Honestly, you folks come across as ingrates.

  • Turner

    May I suggest a new name for the podcast…..”I hate korea podcast” The content of most of your podcasts have been nothing but “things to make fun about korea”

    You made a choice to live there and from what I can see, you and your other hosts have made a fair amount of money at the expense of Korean parents who shell out a ton of money to pay for these useless English schools. Honestly, you folks come across as ingrates.

  • http://roboseyo.blogspot.com Roboseyo

    Turner: would you have listened to a “Here’s another thing to love about Korea!” podcast? Cheerleading gets a bit bland after a while.

  • http://roboseyo.blogspot.com Roboseyo

    Turner: would you have listened to a “Here’s another thing to love about Korea!” podcast? Cheerleading gets a bit bland after a while.

  • Ian

    Turner obviously hasn’t been to Dave’s… Although, I must admit that I have noticed that a lot of my favorite Korean blogs/podcasts have seemed a little more negative than usual.

    …I blame that blasted spring fever (aka allergies) heh

  • Ian

    Turner obviously hasn’t been to Dave’s… Although, I must admit that I have noticed that a lot of my favorite Korean blogs/podcasts have seemed a little more negative than usual.

    …I blame that blasted spring fever (aka allergies) heh

  • http://www.yrad.com/cs/ karl

    Turner, people tend to make fun of whatever is around them and whatever city they live in. Ever hear the locals in your city rave about the quality of your city’s drivers, the efficiency of your local public services, the approachability of your women, the logic of public signage, the quality of the male dating pool, the top notch parenting skills on display at the local grocery store, the reasonable approach your unions take, the value you’re getting at the fare box when you take public transit, the attentiveness of pedestrians, the great music local pop celebs are cranking out, etc.?

    Life in Korea is not a walk in the park and can be a challenge. That’s not to say it doesn’t have its rewards. As we used to note on Seoul Survivors the take away is:

    a) here’s this weeks crop ‘o’ challenges

    b) notice we’re laughing? that’s the best way to deal with challenges

    c) if you’re planning to come to korea, we’re not going to blow sunshine up your butt and claim it’s the land of the morning calm and korea sparkling and a land of smile princesses.

    A Korean friend noted to me whenever she overheard two foreigners talking on the subway, they were invariably complaining about Korea. In your local city, some kid tosses his trash on the ground instead of the trash can right behind him, you mention it to your coworker, laugh, and move on. Some driver cuts you off when you’re walking with the green, you mention it to your friend. We have ways of valving this stuff. It’s not quite the same in Korea, however. You tend to keep a lot of this bottled up. And the once weekly chance you get to talk in uninhibited English with your whitey pal, you just love to valve.

    Drunk korean men may well want to fight you in a donut shop because you’re white. Cab drivers will tell you you’re fat. Old Korean men will follow you and your GF around as you walk down the street. White women will be considered hookers first. Schools won’t tell you about schedule changes until the morning of. Immigration will change the rules on the fly. Your earnest desire to give parents and students value for their money will be blocked by greedy hagwon owners. Kids will be kids. Your school, full of young children, will be a rather noticeable fire trap. All this and more will happen to you in Korea. People shouldn’t know?

    I defy you, however, to find one Seoul Podcast host or guest who wouldn’t die to save his/her students if that school went up in flames, who doesn’t on a weekly basis go home with his/her head hung low because the kids just weren’t getting it and felt like the parents weren’t getting value for their money, who doesn’t give up a seat for an elderly passenger a lot quicker than a local, who doesn’t actually take the time to give free english lessons….

  • http://jenniferteacher.blogspot.com Good Jen

    I will say it again– I love living in Korea almost as much as I love complaining. In the US, I spend an equal amount of time going on about the white trash/ rednecks that I come across in my day. I’m equal opportunity.

  • http://jenniferteacher.blogspot.com Good Jen

    I will say it again– I love living in Korea almost as much as I love complaining. In the US, I spend an equal amount of time going on about the white trash/ rednecks that I come across in my day. I’m equal opportunity.

  • http://www.yrad.com/cs/ karl

    Turner, people tend to make fun of whatever is around them and whatever city they live in. Ever hear the locals in your city rave about the quality of your city’s drivers, the efficiency of your local public services, the approachability of your women, the logic of public signage, the quality of the male dating pool, the top notch parenting skills on display at the local grocery store, the reasonable approach your unions take, the value you’re getting at the fare box when you take public transit, the attentiveness of pedestrians, the great music local pop celebs are cranking out, etc.?

    Life in Korea is not a walk in the park and can be a challenge. That’s not to say it doesn’t have its rewards. As we used to note on Seoul Survivors the take away is:

    a) here’s this weeks crop ‘o’ challenges

    b) notice we’re laughing? that’s the best way to deal with challenges

    c) if you’re planning to come to korea, we’re not going to blow sunshine up your butt and claim it’s the land of the morning calm and korea sparkling and a land of smile princesses.

    A Korean friend noted to me whenever she overheard two foreigners talking on the subway, they were invariably complaining about Korea. In your local city, some kid tosses his trash on the ground instead of the trash can right behind him, you mention it to your coworker, laugh, and move on. Some driver cuts you off when you’re walking with the green, you mention it to your friend. We have ways of valving this stuff. It’s not quite the same in Korea, however. You tend to keep a lot of this bottled up. And the once weekly chance you get to talk in uninhibited English with your whitey pal, you just love to valve.

    Drunk korean men may well want to fight you in a donut shop because you’re white. Cab drivers will tell you you’re fat. Old Korean men will follow you and your GF around as you walk down the street. White women will be considered hookers first. Schools won’t tell you about schedule changes until the morning of. Immigration will change the rules on the fly. Your earnest desire to give parents and students value for their money will be blocked by greedy hagwon owners. Kids will be kids. Your school, full of young children, will be a rather noticeable fire trap. All this and more will happen to you in Korea. People shouldn’t know?

    I defy you, however, to find one Seoul Podcast host or guest who wouldn’t die to save his/her students if that school went up in flames, who doesn’t on a weekly basis go home with his/her head hung low because the kids just weren’t getting it and felt like the parents weren’t getting value for their money, who doesn’t give up a seat for an elderly passenger a lot quicker than a local, who doesn’t actually take the time to give free english lessons….

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ ZenKimchi

    I wasn’t challenging Korean traditional styles, but pink is now considered a feminine color. I asked Eun Jeong about it this past weekend, and she said that was true. Pink is now a girl’s color in Korea. And if Eun Jeong says it, it has to be true.

    Just has to.

  • Chae

    Evil Jennifer is correct in that pink really doesn’t have the same connotations in traditional Korean culture as in Western culture. The two cultures coexist and do not necessarily conflict even in close proximity. A good example is traditional Korean mourning clothing; it is white. In Western style funeral, however, people will wear black. So, is white or black the mourning color in Korea? Answer? It depends.

  • Chae

    Evil Jennifer is correct in that pink really doesn’t have the same connotations in traditional Korean culture as in Western culture. The two cultures coexist and do not necessarily conflict even in close proximity. A good example is traditional Korean mourning clothing; it is white. In Western style funeral, however, people will wear black. So, is white or black the mourning color in Korea? Answer? It depends.

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ ZenKimchi

    I wasn’t challenging Korean traditional styles, but pink is now considered a feminine color. I asked Eun Jeong about it this past weekend, and she said that was true. Pink is now a girl’s color in Korea. And if Eun Jeong says it, it has to be true.

    Just has to.

  • Ian

    Way off topic here, but my fiance was reading an article today that said KTF has decided NOT to bring the iphone to Korea! ;_;

  • Ian

    Way off topic here, but my fiance was reading an article today that said KTF has decided NOT to bring the iphone to Korea! ;_;

  • http://www.yrad.com/cs/ karl

    No iPhone? Koreans will be the least hip people at international conferences!

  • http://www.yrad.com/cs/ karl

    No iPhone? Koreans will be the least hip people at international conferences!

  • http://stafford.squarespace.com Stafford

    No iPhone for KTF because SK Telecom has won the deal with Apple. Be prepared for an outrageous price – both for the handset and for a Data plan – bet ou it won’t be unlimited either – or if it is megaWon!!!!!!

  • http://stafford.squarespace.com Stafford

    No iPhone for KTF because SK Telecom has won the deal with Apple. Be prepared for an outrageous price – both for the handset and for a Data plan – bet ou it won’t be unlimited either – or if it is megaWon!!!!!!

  • http://donism.tumblr.com Don C.

    I used to feel like Turner, and still skip ahead when the criticising gets too much. But I also understand what Good Jen has argued manys times (and again now). Since I am not in Korea, I am looking for a “life in Korea” kind of thing from my podcasts and blogs. Seoul Survivors did that well, and Seoul Podcast has its ups and downs, but I listen.

    Also, Turner, if you wonder about Joe, read his Food Journal and Adventures blog. He and “A Geek in Korea” got it spot on for the “life in Korea” stories I am looking for.

  • http://donism.tumblr.com Don C.

    I used to feel like Turner, and still skip ahead when the criticising gets too much. But I also understand what Good Jen has argued manys times (and again now). Since I am not in Korea, I am looking for a “life in Korea” kind of thing from my podcasts and blogs. Seoul Survivors did that well, and Seoul Podcast has its ups and downs, but I listen.

    Also, Turner, if you wonder about Joe, read his Food Journal and Adventures blog. He and “A Geek in Korea” got it spot on for the “life in Korea” stories I am looking for.

  • Ian

    Stafford: I can only pray that I won’t have to pay too much…. I can always import the phone, but the plan is what has me worried :( Thanks for the info, though. I look everywhere for tech info in Korea, but I have yet to find a decent source. Where do you get all your updates?

  • Ian

    Stafford: I can only pray that I won’t have to pay too much…. I can always import the phone, but the plan is what has me worried :( Thanks for the info, though. I look everywhere for tech info in Korea, but I have yet to find a decent source. Where do you get all your updates?

  • http://www.fatmanseoul.com Evil Jennifer

    echem . . .actually, I would not do anything for my students. Not only that, I never go home worrying about what they have or have not learned from me. I never do this because I am NOT a teacher here. Nice thought, and I’m sure it’s true *of* teachers, but let’s please not fall into the trap of assuming that’s what everybody is up to. No Korean parents’ finances have been harmed in the making of this podcast.
    Eun-jeong can try and wrestle the pink shirts away from all those metrosexual flowerboys. She’s a fighter, but I think they’ll hold onto those floral patters with a tenacity that proves that they still have balls of steel underneath that tailored pantsuit. The fuchsia tie is just there to point out where they’re located . . .

  • http://www.fatmanseoul.com Evil Jennifer

    echem . . .actually, I would not do anything for my students. Not only that, I never go home worrying about what they have or have not learned from me. I never do this because I am NOT a teacher here. Nice thought, and I’m sure it’s true *of* teachers, but let’s please not fall into the trap of assuming that’s what everybody is up to. No Korean parents’ finances have been harmed in the making of this podcast.
    Eun-jeong can try and wrestle the pink shirts away from all those metrosexual flowerboys. She’s a fighter, but I think they’ll hold onto those floral patters with a tenacity that proves that they still have balls of steel underneath that tailored pantsuit. The fuchsia tie is just there to point out where they’re located . . .

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ Joe

    Turner, you’re free to get off your butt and make your own show. No one’s forcing the show on you. In fact, you have to go out and seek it and download it to listen to it. Trying to do what we do each week is a lot more constructive than being a whiney bitch about other people being “whinny bitches.”

    Besides, I’m already called a Korean apologist in other places, so this balances things out.

    **PHEW**

  • turner02

    I am not saying that you should kiss korea’s ass. If you don’t like something….then, by all means, say it. But your sarcasm and pure negativity is draining and annoying. I think there is a fine line between being critical and a whinny bitch. All I am saying is that most of the time, u all come across as the latter.

  • turner02

    I am not saying that you should kiss korea’s ass. If you don’t like something….then, by all means, say it. But your sarcasm and pure negativity is draining and annoying. I think there is a fine line between being critical and a whinny bitch. All I am saying is that most of the time, u all come across as the latter.

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ Joe

    Turner, you’re free to get off your butt and make your own show. No one’s forcing the show on you. In fact, you have to go out and seek it and download it to listen to it. Trying to do what we do each week is a lot more constructive than being a whiney bitch about other people being “whinny bitches.”

    Besides, I’m already called a Korean apologist in other places, so this balances things out.

    **PHEW**

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ Joe

    If you haven’t listened to #50 yet, I’m a total whore for the Ricetard. I freakin’ LOVE ‘em!!

  • Ian

    Joe, I demand that you start being more positive! First of all, I want you to take another look at that guy from the lollipop phone add and say, “His fashion is fantastic! I have never seen anything so cool in all of my life… What a great example of what a heterosexual adult male should look like.”

    After that, you should embrace the RiceTard for the sheer brilliance behind its name. Obviously the company knew what it was doing all along. They planned on cashing in on the number of English speakers who would say, “Rice TARD?!?! OMG! HAhah! I have to buy that!” I’m sure their sales have been through the roof.

    Lastly, your positive comments about Yeon Ah and the Hanok were not positive enough! I want you to go on a rant for at least 10 minutes about each one. You must put Yeon Ah up on a pedestal and divorce your wife so that you can remain pure for her. You have to go out right now and buy yourself a Hanok to show just how much you support its design! Then you have to convince all of your friends to buy one too! Failure is not an option.

    *huff* *huff* See what happens when you get really bored at work? ;)

  • Ian

    Joe, I demand that you start being more positive! First of all, I want you to take another look at that guy from the lollipop phone add and say, “His fashion is fantastic! I have never seen anything so cool in all of my life… What a great example of what a heterosexual adult male should look like.”

    After that, you should embrace the RiceTard for the sheer brilliance behind its name. Obviously the company knew what it was doing all along. They planned on cashing in on the number of English speakers who would say, “Rice TARD?!?! OMG! HAhah! I have to buy that!” I’m sure their sales have been through the roof.

    Lastly, your positive comments about Yeon Ah and the Hanok were not positive enough! I want you to go on a rant for at least 10 minutes about each one. You must put Yeon Ah up on a pedestal and divorce your wife so that you can remain pure for her. You have to go out right now and buy yourself a Hanok to show just how much you support its design! Then you have to convince all of your friends to buy one too! Failure is not an option.

    *huff* *huff* See what happens when you get really bored at work? ;)

  • http://zenkimchi.com/ Joe

    If you haven’t listened to #50 yet, I’m a total whore for the Ricetard. I freakin’ LOVE ‘em!!

  • Ian

    I have yet to see them in my local marts… Guess I have to venture over to E-mart or HomePlus. Maybe this weekend… :D

  • Ian

    I have yet to see them in my local marts… Guess I have to venture over to E-mart or HomePlus. Maybe this weekend… :D

  • hardyandtiny

    This one was pretty good.

  • hardyandtiny

    This one was pretty good.

  • turner02

    Don’t worry Joe, I don’t download this crap. I have streamed enough content to know that you and your cohorts are nothing more than retards. I mean come on, look at you… a loser white guy from the south who can’t get any normal chic to save his pathetic life…therefore, has to resort to getting an Asian mail order bride. It’s pretty comical.

  • turner02

    Don’t worry Joe, I don’t download this crap. I have streamed enough content to know that you and your cohorts are nothing more than retards. I mean come on, look at you… a loser white guy from the south who can’t get any normal chic to save his pathetic life…therefore, has to resort to getting an Asian mail order bride. It’s pretty comical.

  • turner02

    Don’t worry Joe, I don’t download this crap. I have streamed enough content to know that you and your cohorts are nothing more than retards. I mean come on, look at you… a loser white guy from the south who can’t get a normal chic to save his pathetic life…therefore, has to resort to getting an Asian mail order bride. It’s pretty comical.

  • turner02

    Don’t worry Joe, I don’t download this crap. I have streamed enough content to know that you and your cohorts are nothing more than retards. I mean come on, look at you… a loser white guy from the south who can’t get a normal chic to save his pathetic life…therefore, has to resort to getting an Asian mail order bride. It’s pretty comical.